I'm interested in the breakdown by gender. In my experience women get more first-round interviews. So if you care to share your gender in the posting...
is it just an bias in the sampling or are people just lying? i was in the market last year and the average was 150-180. of course, that's excluding the americans, j1 visas and so on. i had 220 apps --> 40 interview offers --> 13 flyouts --> 6 offers --> one job. hope this helps.
I sent out 60 applications. my program ranked 20-30, I was ranked 3rd among ~20 ph.d. candidates this year. Ref. letters was sent our late (december 4th), got no interview from academia yet. some from research places and private sectors. Feel pretty bad now. wth!
i'm not going to say which schools they were. but i believe top schools "market" their students to other schools to some extent, and sometimes that is seen as an application, even if we don't actually apply.
>>Get you advisor to make a call or email for you. Sending out late applications like that can be fatal.
how bad is it if all three letters don't get to your schools on time? some of my letters went out even later (12/8) as my advisor just cannot organize herself. But I got 3 interviews before that. I asked my advisor to place a call, but no way of checking if she has done that. No interview offers since 12/5.
24 academic 3 interviews 4 non-academic research 1 interview
My stats: department is top 10~25. have a tenure track job at a state-college-of-never-heard-of in the middel of nowhere. want to move to either Coast.
I sent approx 130 when I was on the market got about 10. Now that I'm on the other side, it is clearly a pain in the arse to weed through 140 apps for approx 20 interview slots. I'm at a "top tier" undergrad regional school. You PHD students in programs outside the top 30 should realize your unlikely to get a job at a PHD school so why bother? Besides a good undergrad institution is better than a 150th ranked PhD program isn't it? The best advice I can give you is to realize most phd academic economists are teachers first. I think the median number of pubs for a phd in econ is 0. Sell your ability to communicate economics to the hiring committee, whether it be for teaching or research.
So 8:59 isn't far off. The median may well be 1 or less. This is supported on p9 of the paper which estimates that only 41.5% publish one whole article (co-authorship counts for less than one).
i am stil wondering if chicago is going to give me an interview. i know they are interested in my field, but they haven't called. wtf is up?? i know a lot of top candidates and no-one has heard from chicago. there is also no mention of chicago interviews on the wikipedia site. what's going on??? call me dammit!!!
60 comments:
80 apps, 10 interviews
128 apps / 12 interviews
84 apps, 10 interviews
how about dividing this in 2 categories?
100 academic applications 10 intervies
5 non academic applications 1 interview
84 academic, 9 interviews
6 nonacademic, 2 interviews
0 private sector, 0 interviews
150 academic apps--> 14 interviews
15 non-academic apps--> 3 interviews
150 academic, 15 interviews,
50 non-academic, 0 interview.
BTW, I am non-resident alien......
why don't you guys distinguish between :
academic
private or public research institutions (e.g. RAND, FED, IMF)
non-research private (consulting, etc)
112 academic aps -> 37 interview offers
from the top 5 to the top 500
(US citizen)
academic:
50 apps / 10 interviews
private sector 9 interviews in Chicago, couple more interviews to take place in NYC
50 apps, 20 interviews, all academic.
85 apps, 16 interviews
50 apps/ zero (yet):(
120 applications
25 accepted
20 declined
50 non-academic applications
25 interviews
26 (at business schools) and only 4 so far (but they're still coming in).
62 apps (all academic), 9 interviews so far.
I'm interested in the breakdown by gender. In my experience women get more first-round interviews. So if you care to share your gender in the posting...
I'm male (but honestly not bitter).
what are usually the interview:job offer ratio? Like 10:1? better or worse? (can you separate academic and private sector?)
150 applications, 21 interviews
i think it might be useful to indicate your phd program rankings... my phd program is ranked between 30-40.
105 aps, 17 i-views so far.
Specs: Male foreigner from a mid-ranked (~40) dept.
Oh, how they wooed me into the market with the "rule of one third" (90 aps: 30 iviews: 10 flyouts: 3 offers: 1 job).
I wish!
120 academic apps, 16 interviews
(department ranked 40-50)
75 apps (academia)
37 interview
12 declined
department ranked (1-10)
My program ranks bw 30-40.
I applied around 60 schools, all research schools with PhD program.
I only got 3 school interviews so far.
is it just an bias in the sampling or are people just lying? i was in the market last year and the average was 150-180. of course, that's excluding the americans, j1 visas and so on. i had 220 apps --> 40 interview offers --> 13 flyouts --> 6 offers --> one job. hope this helps.
150-180??? At my department they say to apply to around 70 and that seems standard. What is the 180th ranked school, I wonder?
I sent out 60 applications. my program ranked 20-30, I was ranked 3rd among ~20 ph.d. candidates this year. Ref. letters was sent our late (december 4th), got no interview from academia yet. some from research places and private sectors. Feel pretty bad now. wth!
Many people have asked for universities below the 180th place in the following ranking:
http://www.econphd.net/rank/rallec.htm
I am from a top 10 department and since I was in my first year I hear that you must send more than 150 applications
Female American.
Department Rank >100.
Academic 84 apps. 6 interviews
Private 1 app 1 interview and offer.
Public 0 apps, 2 interviews
School ranking - 50-100
80 academic applications
10 government applications
5 private industry applications
Academic interviews: 9
Private interviews: 1
"Ref. letters was sent our late (december 4th), got no interview from academia yet."
Get you advisor to make a call or email for you. Sending out late applications like that can be fatal.
any early flyouts?
53 applications.
15 interviews.
2 interviews were from places i didn't apply to. >.>
got another 2 nonacademic interviews in chicago too.
anyone heard from chicago yet? I know quite a few top candidates and no-one has heard from chicago.
Could you please explain how you got interviews from places you didnt apply to? And which places were these, if you dont mind?
i'm not going to say which schools they were. but i believe top schools "market" their students to other schools to some extent, and sometimes that is seen as an application, even if we don't actually apply.
9:03Pm
>>Get you advisor to make a call or email for you. Sending out late applications like that can be fatal.
how bad is it if all three letters don't get to your schools on time? some of my letters went out even later (12/8) as my advisor just cannot organize herself. But I got 3 interviews before that. I asked my advisor to place a call, but no way of checking if she has done that. No interview offers since 12/5.
24 academic 3 interviews
4 non-academic research 1 interview
My stats:
department is top 10~25. have a tenure track job at a state-college-of-never-heard-of in the middel of nowhere. want to move to either Coast.
non-US citizen, permanent resident, male, field: applied micro
180 academic applications / 19 interviews so far, one flyout, one offer
20 other applications / 4 interviews (private sector and policy)
top 10-20 econ department
yes, i know people who were called by chicago by now.
I sent approx 130 when I was on the market got about 10. Now that I'm on the other side, it is clearly a pain in the arse to weed through 140 apps for approx 20 interview slots. I'm at a "top tier" undergrad regional school. You PHD students in programs outside the top 30 should realize your unlikely to get a job at a PHD school so why bother? Besides a good undergrad institution is better than a 150th ranked PhD program isn't it? The best advice I can give you is to realize most phd academic economists are teachers first. I think the median number of pubs for a phd in econ is 0. Sell your ability to communicate economics to the hiring committee, whether it be for teaching or research.
just out of curiosity, how can people already have had an academic flyout AND offer at this stage? thanks
i am one of them.
i know someone who got an interview with chicago gsb.
anyone got an interview with chicago econ?
Has anyone heard from UCLA?
You guys are posting in the wrong section. UCLA Anderson Policy called last week. So did Econ.
for the lucky guy who already has an offer: is it academic? what's the university ranking? your own phd program's ranking? thanks
I would encourage everyone to update the wiki at
http://www.bluwiki.com/go/Econjobmarket
It looks like the best way to aggregate all of the information on interviews.
At first glance, updating the information may seem difficult, but it's actually pretty easy.
I think the median number of pubs for a phd in econ is 0.
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With math skills like that there is little wonder why you didn't land a job at a PhD department.
Relevant to the current discussion:
http://student.ulb.ac.be/~tcoupe/surv.pdf
Estimates that only 60% of PhDs ever publish.
So 8:59 isn't far off. The median may well be 1 or less. This is supported on p9 of the paper which estimates that only 41.5% publish one whole article (co-authorship counts for less than one).
Interesting little article.
Is there anybody from a European PhD program here? Did you get any interview for the AEA meetings in Chicago?
i am stil wondering if chicago is going to give me an interview. i know they are interested in my field, but they haven't called. wtf is up?? i know a lot of top candidates and no-one has heard from chicago. there is also no mention of chicago interviews on the wikipedia site. what's going on??? call me dammit!!!
I know people who have interviews at Chicago Econ, GSB, and Harris.
Advanced assistant: 10/3.
First year on market: 200/40/15/3.
PhD from top 10 program.
20/120 Academic
3/12 Research Institutes
F1 Visa
Male
Department ranked between 25-35
Answer for:
"December 19, 2006 11:34 AM"
I am in a top 10 department. The offer I have is from a top 150 department.
27 applications (all academic), 2 interviews
9:43 - why so few applications sent out? Just curious.
Buyer's side: 250 applicants for 2 tenure-track jobs. Will interview approximately 50 candidates. Will fly back up to 6.
6:41 - can you state the approximate ranking of your department?
Demand side: First-tier national liberal arts college. 200 applicants for one tenure-track job. We will interview 20 and fly in 3 to 5.
Demand side: Top business School. Around 250 applications for one position (in AM/IO). Interviewing 21. Will possibly fly back 6-7.
Top liberal arts school. 400 apps for 2 positions. probably 6 flybacks.
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